Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Meeting date: Tuesday, December 15, 2020

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Decision Time

The first question is, that motion S5M-23682, in the name of Humza Yousaf, on the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Bill at stage 1, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

We will move to a division. We will suspend for a few moments to allow members to access the voting app.

18:35 Meeting suspended.  

18:40 On resuming—  

We will resume proceedings and go straight to the vote. I remind members that the question is, that S5M-23682, in the name of Humza Yousaf, on the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Bill at stage 1, be agreed to. Members may cast their votes now. This will be a one-minute division.

For the benefit of members online, we are now in the vote on motion S5M-23682, in the name of Humza Yousaf, on stage 1 of the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Bill. Members should vote yes if they agree with the bill.

I am afraid that we have had some technical difficulties. Members who are joining us on BlueJeans did not hear me calling the vote and half a dozen of them were therefore unable to exercise their vote. We will have to run that vote again. It is better to run it again than to disenfranchise members.

We will wait until we can be sure that members can hear the instructions from the chamber. There will be a short pause while we find that out. We are not suspended. We are still in session and we are still being broadcast.

There is a slight problem with Blue Jeans, and the members online cannot hear instructions from the chamber. We will run the vote again and I will type in instructions so that they can all see when the vote is open, which is our back-up position. We will run the vote for slightly longer. We can check whether anybody has voted. We will therefore run the vote again for two minutes and we will make sure that everybody has a chance to vote. Just hold on a second before we get ready to vote.

The question is, that motion S5M-23682, in the name of Humza Yousaf, on the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Bill at stage 1, be agreed to. Members may cast their votes now. This will be a two-minute division on the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Bill at stage 1.

The vote is now closed, so I will check whether any member struggled to vote and I will confirm the result after I have done that.

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. Oh—finally, the robust system has confirmed that I voted no. I withdraw my point of order. The system is obviously not bust but robust.

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I thought that I had voted, but I have an error message suggesting that I have not.

I can confirm that you did vote, Dr Allan.

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My screen does not say whether I voted or not, so I am hoping that I did.

You did.

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I was unable to vote, and I would have voted yes.

Thank you, Ms Mackay. We heard that, and I will make sure that your vote is added to the vote roll.

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I am sorry, but I could not hear you and I missed the vote. I would have voted yes.

Thank you, Ms Marra. That is noted and your vote will be added to the vote roll.

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My system would not allow me in to vote. Microsoft has got no verification codes left. Can I ensure that my vote is recorded as—[Inaudible.] [Laughter.]

Can I just check what your vote was, Mr Neil?

I would have voted yes.

Thank you. That has been noted and your vote will be added to the vote roll.

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I voted yes in the first vote, then was unable to vote in the second vote. Then the system told me that I voted no, and then it told me that I had not voted at all. I would have voted—and did vote—yes.

Thank you, Ms White. I will make sure that your yes vote is recorded.

I can confirm that we have now accounted for all votes.

For

Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP)
Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP)
Allan, Dr Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP)
Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire South) (SNP)
Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab)
Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)
Beamish, Claudia (South Scotland) (Lab)
Beattie, Colin (Midlothian North and Musselburgh) (SNP)
Bibby, Neil (West Scotland) (Lab)
Boyack, Sarah (Lothian) (Lab)
Brown, Keith (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP)
Campbell, Aileen (Clydesdale) (SNP)
Coffey, Willie (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP)
Cole-Hamilton, Alex (Edinburgh Western) (LD)
Constance, Angela (Almond Valley) (SNP)
Crawford, Bruce (Stirling) (SNP)
Cunningham, Roseanna (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP)
Denham, Ash (Edinburgh Eastern) (SNP)
Dey, Graeme (Angus South) (SNP)
Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Dornan, James (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP)
Ewing, Annabelle (Cowdenbeath) (SNP)
Ewing, Fergus (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP)
Fabiani, Linda (East Kilbride) (SNP)
Fee, Mary (West Scotland) (Lab)
Findlay, Neil (Lothian) (Lab)
Finnie, John (Highlands and Islands) (Green)
FitzPatrick, Joe (Dundee City West) (SNP)
Forbes, Kate (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP)
Freeman, Jeane (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP)
Gibson, Kenneth (Cunninghame North) (SNP)
Gilruth, Jenny (Mid Fife and Glenrothes) (SNP)
Gougeon, Mairi (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP)
Grahame, Christine (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP)
Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Gray, Iain (East Lothian) (Lab)
Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green)
Griffin, Mark (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP)
Harvie, Patrick (Glasgow) (Green)
Haughey, Clare (Rutherglen) (SNP)
Hepburn, Jamie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP)
Hyslop, Fiona (Linlithgow) (SNP)
Johnson, Daniel (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab)
Kelly, James (Glasgow) (Lab)
Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP)
Lamont, Johann (Glasgow) (Lab)
Leonard, Richard (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Lochhead, Richard (Moray) (SNP)
Lyle, Richard (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP)
MacDonald, Angus (Falkirk East) (SNP)
MacDonald, Gordon (Edinburgh Pentlands) (SNP)
Macdonald, Lewis (North East Scotland) (Lab)
MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP)
Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP)
Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP)
Maguire, Ruth (Cunninghame South) (SNP)
Marra, Jenny (North East Scotland) (Lab)
Martin, Gillian (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP)
Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
McAlpine, Joan (South Scotland) (SNP)
McArthur, Liam (Orkney Islands) (LD)
McKee, Ivan (Glasgow Provan) (SNP)
McKelvie, Christina (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (SNP)
McMillan, Stuart (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP)
McNeill, Pauline (Glasgow) (Lab)
Neil, Alex (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP)
Paterson, Gil (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP)
Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD)
Robison, Shona (Dundee City East) (SNP)
Ross, Gail (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP)
Rowley, Alex (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)
Rumbles, Mike (North East Scotland) (LD)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Russell, Michael (Argyll and Bute) (SNP)
Sarwar, Anas (Glasgow) (Lab)
Smith, Elaine (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Smyth, Colin (South Scotland) (Lab)
Somerville, Shirley-Anne (Dunfermline) (SNP)
Stevenson, Stewart (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
Swinney, John (Perthshire North) (SNP)
Todd, Maree (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
Torrance, David (Kirkcaldy) (SNP)
Watt, Maureen (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP)
Wheelhouse, Paul (South Scotland) (SNP)
White, Sandra (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP)
Wightman, Andy (Lothian) (Green)
Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD)
Yousaf, Humza (Glasgow Pollok) (SNP)

Against

Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Con)
Ballantyne, Michelle (South Scotland) (Ind)
Bowman, Bill (North East Scotland) (Con)
Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con)
Burnett, Alexander (Aberdeenshire West) (Con)
Cameron, Donald (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Carlaw, Jackson (Eastwood) (Con)
Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)
Chapman, Peter (North East Scotland) (Con)
Corry, Maurice (West Scotland) (Con)
Davidson, Ruth (Edinburgh Central) (Con)
Golden, Maurice (West Scotland) (Con)
Greene, Jamie (West Scotland) (Con)
Halcro Johnston, Jamie (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con)
Harris, Alison (Central Scotland) (Con)
Kerr, Liam (North East Scotland) (Con)
Lindhurst, Gordon (Lothian) (Con)
Lockhart, Dean (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Mason, Tom (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mitchell, Margaret (Central Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Mundell, Oliver (Dumfriesshire) (Con)
Scott, John (Ayr) (Con)
Simpson, Graham (Central Scotland) (Con)
Smith, Liz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Stewart, Alexander (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Wells, Annie (Glasgow) (Con)
Whittle, Brian (South Scotland) (Con)

Abstentions

Tomkins, Adam (Glasgow) (Con)

The result of the division on motion S5M-23682, in the name of Humza Yousaf, on the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Bill at stage 1, is: For 91, Against 29, Abstentions 1.

Motion agreed to,

That the Parliament agrees to the general principles of the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Bill.

The final question is, that motion S5M-23531, in the name of Kate Forbes, on the financial resolution to the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Bill, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

There will be a division.

The vote is now closed.

I am afraid that there were a few technical difficulties with that vote, so I will take points of order, and we will make sure that everybody’s vote is recorded.

We have a point of order from Rona Mackay, although I am not sure that the sound is working.

Oh dear. [Laughter.]

We have a point of order from Rona Mackay.

Colleagues, there are a number of technical difficulties. Basically, members who are online cannot hear us. Although we are in communication, it is not satisfactory. We have agreed the main item of business, so I suggest that we postpone the vote on the financial resolution until tomorrow. We will rerun the vote tomorrow when we have business in the chamber.

Before we move to members’ business, I encourage all members to be careful when leaving the chamber, to wear their masks, to observe social distancing and to follow the one-way systems that are in place around the building.

I will suspend the meeting for a few moments to make sure that members who are joining us remotely can do so.

18:58 Meeting suspended.  

19:02 On resuming—